Wednesday, February 4, 2015

CRIMINAL MINDS Season 10 - 1014. Hero Worship - Comments Thread

This thread is open for you all to post comments and talk about tonight's new CRIMINAL MINDS episode, titled 'Hero Worship', written by Rick Dunkle.

Hope you've enjoyed today's episode, and remember that next week we'll have a new brand one!

56 comments:

  1. Ok so I loved the episode but with me I usually love episode to be honest. I feel like it was really good and I loved how in the promo they faked us out kinda.Awesome Reid and Rossi interactions I really love how they bond sometimes.The others were on point.I also love how Reid got a cute plane scene at the end of the episode this season for once.Oh and no one get mad at me for what I'm about mot say.But that forensic lab person I kinda ship her and Reid I mean she just seems awkward like him and intelligent and they just seem like they would be a good pair together.And go Indianapolis my town! Love that place man I'm a Hoosier .

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  2. I think if Reid ever paired up with someone, it would never be "right". He has too many fans, and I don't think CM could ever find someone acceptable for him that fans would like. On the final episode/series finale, they should have him briefly meet someone, and give the impression that he's going to be OK. From her IMDB page, it looks like she is only in one episode of CM, but it seemed like they did spend an unusual amount of time on her character. She's supposed to be 23, and what is he, 35? Indianapolis, Quantico? I don't see it.

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    1. I remember that the actress playing her was all excited about the role but even so stressed it was a small role.

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    2. That's not true, for me at least. I was fine with every character he has been "shipped" with. Lila, Austin, Maeve, (apparently Seaver). I would have been fine with Reid being with any of those characters. I think Einstein was also cool, but the "Einstein" thing is a little meh

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  3. I really enjoyed this episode. The unsub "twist" was nice, I had wondered what was going on when they brought him in so soon into the episode. I liked that none of the characters were neglected and that Reid, Rossi and Hotch weren't MIA.

    I LOVED the three scenes of Rossi and Reid, the first scene where Rossi calls his bluff about the subway (though Reid played it off as if he didn't know it was late, I think he did). I thought the other two scenes that dealt with chess. It was nice to see Rossi help Reid through the median(chess) that a)Gideon used to relate to him b) one of the best ways Reid responds.

    My favorite scene though by far was the one with Morgan and Reid during the diffusing of the bomb scene. "Kid get back" and then "not a chance" It really showed the bond formed by so many years having each other's back. If one was to die the other as well. I did chuckle at the conversation right before that "what are the odds we'd beat the bomb squad?" "I could give you statistics, but I don't think it's the time for that." My, how Reid has grown.

    As for the case, I liked it. Hotch was in charge, Reid was smart , Morgan got to use his bomb squad training, Rossi was Rossi, Kate and Hotch did well with the interrogation. JJ wasn't a ninja. OH, I loved that Reid was able to talk the unsub down.

    Great episode!

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    1. YES YES and YES to everything you said. I actually liked this episode better that Nelson's Sparrow. And I could tolerate JJ in this episode, especially because of the great balance of the team.

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  4. I thought this was a decent, solid episode and it did keep me guessing some about what was going on. I too thought they were setting Reid up with Einstein. I wonder about that still.
    Great to seem them function as a team again. Nice to see Reid in on a take down making the arrest.

    Overall a very nice effort.

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  5. Question, and bare with me, I'm sick and on meds...why did Morgan tell Reid to turn off his cell phone...was it:
    A) to lessen distractions by having it not suddenly ring b) could something electric interface and have the truck go boom? c) so that if questioned, they could say there was a communication complication and they couldn't reach anyone and had to make the call to well...be..the bomb squad? just curious.

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  6. This episode had the missfortune to come up after last week episode 'Nelson's Sparrow' which was so great. I think anything short of another '100' would not hit as high as last week episode. That said we had a pretty good episode.

    The case was solid, liked that we got to guess who was the unsub. Was sure the husband was, then I briefly entertained the idea that it was the wife but nope bombs are not the way women usually kill.

    Loved how there was a follow up about how Reid was doing after losing Gideon. It was well done, not too much drama, the grief that Reid is going throught but nothing was over the top. I like that it seems as if Rossi is stepping up to be the one to look out for Reid. Gideon used to do that. Totally enjoyed the scenes between Reid and Rossi.

    How about that, Morgan got to defuse a bomb! Another scene I enjoyed!

    Hotch was totally in charge and loved it! He and Kate work well together. She is not as good as Prentiss was, remember the interrogation of the mother in Bloodline where they both played good cop/bad cop? That was a great scene! Yes at time I still miss Prentiss. That said I do enjoy the Kate character and I think Jennifer Love Hewitt is doing a good job on CM.

    Sneaky Hotch to get the politician to do what they needed him to do. Maybe it is a good think Hotch is not going into politics, he is very adept at manipulating people!

    All and all I loved this episode, not as much as last week but it was a solid episode written by Rick Dunkle.

    I gave it a solid 8/10.

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  7. For me the episode wasn't bad... It was decent episode...I agree with CMRT that this episode had the misfortune of coming up right after the wonderful Nelson's Sparrow.

    The case was definitely solid and had many twists and turns. I enjoyed that not 'one' person finally solved everything with little information. I enjoyed the balance of the team.

    I enjoyed Rossi/Reid scenes.

    I thought Ms. Einstein was a bit much and I sure hope they don't try to do another 'long distance' type relationship only with Reid this time.
    I like Reid on the takedown and that they didn't have to 'kill' the unsub to apprehend him. Reid with JJ talking him down was nice to see.
    I liked Kate and Hotch together on the interrogation.
    Was glad to see them 'finally' remember that Morgan was a bomb expert before BAU... that was a well done scene with Morgan and Reid difusing the bomb.

    Overall it wan't a bad episode... I'd give it a 7/10

    As for your question Autumn... they didn't know how the bomb was triggered so there was a possibility a cell phone signal could trigger the bomb... That's why Morgan told Reid to turn off the phones.

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  8. Thanks all. Being sick and on this med is messing with my brain. I felt stupid for asking. Thank y'all though.

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  9. For me, it's always tough to watch the next episode of CM after an amazing one. I expect a letdown. However, since it was Dunkle, I had hopes. He did such an amazing job with Slave of Duty after 100.

    While this episode had "nothing to write home about" for me, it wasn't that bad. The plot twists and turns kept me guessing. I thought Alan was the unsub until the bomb appeared under his truck. Then I'm going, "well lets re-think this". All in all, the unsub portion was all right; but not really outstanding.

    What I did love was having another episode featuring mainly the team doing their job, instead of the unsub. And like a previous reviewer noted, it was the whole team. Every member got their chance and shined doing what they do best. I loved the scene with JJ, Kate and the reporters. The Morgan/Reid scene disarming the bomb was wonderful; it was nice use again of Morgan's abilities in that field of expertise. Hotch clearly showed he has mastered the skill of playing politics and still being the Unit Chief that won't let politics get in the way. Kate did impressive work with the interrogation (clearly one of her fortes). And Reid and JJ taking down the unsub at then end was wonderful.

    Yet the best for me were the Rossi and Reid scenes. Good ol' Uncle Dave was there again. I nearly laughed myself silly at the "Sonny boy" line.

    This episode didn't have the "wow I'm really impressed" factor for me. Yet it was a solid one with a lot of the team.

    Rockie's grade is a B+

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    1. this isn't the best episode of dundle....i grade B, and i agree the best scenes the boom initial, and Rossi_ reid scenes. No that much of tension or creepy factors of other episodes and seasons

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  10. to mch JLH for me....and there wan't any factor surprise. after last week episode this is...just ok...

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  11. I liked it. For a Rick Dunkle episode it was surprisingly solid. I liked the profile delivery which seemed much more realistic with the cops actually engaging and asking questions. I liked that Morgan's bomb expertise was wheeled out and I liked his scenes with Reid. I liked Rossi's scenes with Reid even if Rossi was doing his kindly Grandpa bit. I was amused to see Morgan asleep on the couch on the jet - they usually put Reid there! A good spread of team, Garcia and JJ were only mildly annoying - must they roll out the "I'm a mom too" bit with JJ every time there is someone on the show with a child? I thought Kate was OK but I am finding her heavily made up eyes very distracting - someone called them raccoon eyes and I agree! The Einstein girl? I wonder if they were setting her up to appear again. I'm not a shipper on the show as they always fail miserably at doing the personal stories and they should work on getting the profiling and case stories right first but I can see someone quirky and funny like that coping with Reid.
    All in all, not a bad effort and one I can easily watch again - and there aren't too many of those in the last 3 seasons!

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    1. Sorry to disappoint, wasn't Morgan sleeping on the couch but JJ. Morgan was seated in front of Callahan and Hotch wearing his headphones ;-)

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    2. Whoops! Must view again - I only got the glimpse and thought it was Morgan! Thanks Sir Elyan for the correction. It's still where they usually park Reid these days though!

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  12. i don¡ understand how you find garcia less annoying...i barely see her as a par of the team., eansted i find JLH very annoying

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    1. At this stage for me Garcia is pretty much always annoying - it is just a question of degree. In last night's episode she was better, less of a childish, cartoon character than usual. I don't see how you find JLH very annoying - she has had a very low key introduction to the show and has not taken over as I feared she might, She doesn't bother me at all except I wish she would tone down the eyeliner. She actually fits into the team quite well.

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    2. I was glad that Garcia was toned down, too, but one thing bothered me last night. When she was talking, and not just last night, her mouth movements are so exaggerated it bugs me. It's worse than nails scrapping across a blackboard!

      Anyway, I was worried that the episode would be such a disappointment after Nelsons Sparrow, but I was pleasantly surprised. The main storyline wasn't great, but it was a good one, and the plot twists kept me interested throughout the show. What I found so great was that all the characters were incorporated into the story, and none of them really stood out as being focused on. Even Reid, who was still being shown as mourning Gideon's death, was handled subtledly, and Rossi did an excellent job of helping him through it. As much as I dislike JJ, I can't say anything bad about her, because what little we saw her was just enough; yes, she was in the takedown scene, but Reid was the primary there and not Morgan.

      I was also glad that they used JLH in the interrogations with Hotch...she did an excellent job, forceful but not overbearing. And Hotch let her do it all.

      I enjoyed Hotch being the Unit Chief again. And yes, I drooled all over my keyboard.

      I give this episode 9/10, and last week's an12/10.

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    3. sorry, garcia annoys you, she is one of my favorite characters, agree sometimes she needs less overacting gestures., but But Callahan is taken over the show....it's my feeling, : no team chemistry like on previous season. and es, i don't like JLH, she is the one that annoys me

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  13. abby in Ncsi has more role than Garcia in criminal minds. I even miss her character: perky, wiity comments, and i even miss Garcia and Reid banter from previous seasons

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  14. I liked the episode, nice balance within the team and stuff, but is it only me who found it a little bit, I don't know... sort of cheesy? And maybe a little bit childish? I mean, would a person really be so unreasonable that he would set off a bomb just to get his wife impressed? Maybe a little bit unrealistic? Also, the unsub was childish, and I did not take him seriously. Besides, I do not think that the unsub's motive was "enough" for him to snap like he did, it had however been different if Garcia, for example, found out that he had a record of similar crimes where he snapped because he felt that he was unfairly treated. I don't know.. this episode was a little bit too shallow and cheesy for my part.
    Do you guys remember the unsub in "natural born killer" in season 1? THAT'S the sort of story, motive and psychology an unsub should have, that's criminal minds style, actually, come to think of it, season one has A LOT of really great unsubs. Just my opinion though...:)

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  15. I really, really hope they don't pair the Einstein girl with Reid, leave it alone! It was a bit ham-handed of the writers, although that cute girl handled the role well. But please, no dragging her to Quantico to pair with Reid!!

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    1. Actually I liked the character, she was funny, upbeat, hope we see her again. I think her and Reid would make a cute couple. Would be nice to see Reid in a happy relationship, one that would last.

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    2. I don't think any of the present writers can write a partner for Reid. This character was played well by the girl, but was a total Mary Sue the way she was written. I personally don't want Reid with lady parts.

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    3. In what way was she a Mary Sue? I never had the feeling she was a Mary Sue.

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    4. I didn't see her as a Mary Sue either. I thought she was just clever and quirky and I think, if they were capable of writing it, that that irreverence would be a great foil for Reid's intensity. But I don't want them to go there because they simply cannot write the personal stories at all well. The only remotely believable relationship on the show was Hotch and Haley where both good and bad felt real. So please don't go there with Reid CM, leave it to fanfiction where there are writers who can actually write relationships.

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    5. CMRT, why do I see her as a Mary Sue? Well, let's just see.
      Smarter than anyone else in the room except for Reid? Check.
      A medical doctor at the age of 19 and therefore probably a genius? Check.
      Solving whole chunks of the investigation in her super-duper lab while batting her eyes at Rossi? Check
      Cute as a button with long dark hair and big doe eyes? Check.
      Young and vital and able to rock a silly hat in the field? Check.
      And, come on… Einstein? Really?

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    6. But all this can also be said about Reid except for the obvious name.



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    7. [But all this can also be said about Reid except for the obvious name.]

      Well, if you approach Reid as the writers have in the last 3 years, yes, Reid could be boiled down to those elements, oversimplified and written for nothing but.

      But the Reid we have seen in Elephant's Memory, in Fisher King, The Instincts/Memoriam, and countless others, is not some Data-esque robot genius, not some Intellect without complexity or maturity, not some perfect exemplar of heroism. It is true, he has been written very close to that edge in the past 3 to 4 years, but should we encourage that by halving him with some pseudo-mate who equals him in intellect and trumps him in CUTE?

      Garbage, folks. Write Reid the way he was conceived, and don't cheap him out for a friggin happy ending.

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    8. Then what would be the perfect mate for Reid? They had Lyla, then the bartender in 52 pick up, they had Maeve and all were unfit for Reid according to some fans. Obviously those 'failures' ( I do not feel like this) to write a believeable mate is not just on writers from s6 to 10 but was the same from s1 to 5.

      So, a mate for Reid should be less cute and smart then he is? I do not equate Reid being paired with someone who would be as cute or smart as him as writing him as a walking cliché.

      I often read that none of the women written for Reid are never 'good enough', mind you can read the same thing about Hotch and Morgan too, So, who would be the perfect girl for Spencer?



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    9. CMRT, they already drew someone who most people were happy with, but they had her slaughtered, because that's what you do in a soap opera.

      Maeve was very Spencer-appropriate of many reasons:
      1. By the time we meet her, he's already established a relationship with her based on a love of her mind. Fans of the show were wary, but it seemed like she was intelligent and compassionate. He'd not even seen her, but was invested in her. This could have gone the wrong way, but didn't. (yet)
      2. By the time we see her, we know she's smart and shy, but also willing to take a chance, because she knows love is something you have to put your heart on the line for. She thinks her danger is over, so she wants to meet him, whom she loves without ever seeing also. It doesn't hurt that she's cute, but it's not the most important thing. She's not vapid and vain, she's mature enough to commit to Reid and stay, another thing that's vital to him.
      3. She would have fit into his world at the BAU, and also would have fit into his post-BAU world, should he decide to go all-academic. She could have helped him see his genetics weren't a sword of Damocles, they could have had kids.

      Lila and Austin weren't failures, because they served to show that Spencer had regular sexual urges (Lila) and he could be charming to the opposite sex (Austin), something he was unsure of. But the writers already wrote him the perfect mate in Maeve, then they killed her off. A cute "chick" with an even cuter name and enough quirk to fit into 2 other CBS shows is not going to fill the bill now.

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    10. 'CMRT, they already drew someone who most people were happy with, but they had her slaughtered, because that's what you do in a soap opera. . '

      MGG was in accord with the writers about Maeve death from the moment she was created, it wasn't just the writers decision it was MGG too.

      Since Maeve is dead where does that leaves the writers? Do they write another Maeve, who for some fans was the perfect mate for Reid, write someone we already saw, write the same character again or go with someone different who Reid could be interested in and explore how Reid deals with someone who is different from Maeve?

      As for Einstein, maybe at the moment, after losing Maeve, what Reid need is just that, cute, fun yet smart.

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    11. MGG does not run this show, and i think even he regretted how the Maeve thing ended up. But it was the show runner and the writers who drove this puppy to SoapLand, and I don't feel like trusting them to soap Reid out of his loneliness.
      Perhaps they could have it become evident that Reid has an academic colleague, similar to Alex, but closer to his age, that he has been becoming close to. No damseling, maybe just seeing them at a lecture or something, giving subtle hints that things are moving in a romantic direction. Perhaps a little bonding with morgan, a little sharing and asking for advice. It needn't and shouldn't be "The Episode Where Reid Meets His True Love" and she's shoved down our throats. It could be done, but they haven't done subtle in a long time.

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    12. Hey guys, I'm pretty sure MGG had nothing to do with the decision to kill off Maeve. From the beginning the writers were planning to kill her off, however, it only WAS MGG's idea that they never meet/see each other until the end. The writers just run the ideas by the actors and see if they agree.

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  16. I'm with Suegypt on this one. She was too Bright! and Bubbly! and Snarky! and Quirky! for me. In my eye, Einstein suffered from the same kind of caricature with which the writers so often, and so poorly, portray Reid. If Reid is to enter a relationship, I'd like it to be a serious one, with a woman who is mature and grounded. But I don't know that anyone on this team knows how to write that, so I'm okay with him being alone.

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    1. I just don't understand why Reid's girlfriend has to be smart, (or above average) Why can't she just be a normal smart person with a lot of empathy and patience? From where i stand, what he likes is when people listens, they don't have to always understand, but just listen and give him time and love..

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    2. Well said, Liv. I wouldn't imagine he would only love people who could quote chapter and verse of the Anarchist's Bible, play chess like a prodigy. Maeve loved him because he shared her love of philosophy and literature. As Spencer himself has said, varied experience keeps the brain alive (badly paraphrased, I know). I did have the thought that, sine "Einstein" has bomb expertise, that if morgan leaves, they might recruit her. Ugh.

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    3. wooops, deleted my comment by an accident :S What i said was that the thought about Einstein replacing Morgan never hit me, but now that you mentioned it, that may be very well possible, I dont hope so though.. But do you by any chance know if Shemar Moore has said anything else about leaving after season 10?

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    4. Shemar has not talked about anything beyond S10. It is anyone's guess if he will stay or leave after this season.

      As for Einstein replacing Morgan that would be a big surprise. CBS MO when losing cast is to replace them with someone similar. If Shemar's leaves, CBS will probably replace him with another male actor.

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    5. Liv, he talked very definitely about leaving at the end of 10 last year. I don't follow him, but I haven't heard that he has said anything this season about "goodbye." I do hope, if he leaves, it's with a fitting sendoff, the character deserves it.

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    6. Thank you for answering CMRT and Suegypt! Suegypt: I hope so too, but I think that if he does leave, I think I might stop watching, I dont know. Not because he's my favorite character, but because he is essential to the team and the show, I can't imagine Criminal Minds without Morgan any less than I can amagine it without Hotch or Reid.

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    7. Yeah, Liv, I think it would be a big chunk missing if Shemar left.

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    8. reid doesn't need a girlfriend is sooo smart...and agree i can't imagine criminal minds without Rossi Morgan Reid Garcia Hotch.

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  17. By the way did I mention how much I LOVED Kate (JLH) in this episode! I think she did a superb job with her script and I believe she is becoming a great profiler. :) Awesome!
    Anyone agree??

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    1. I think she was good, especially in the tag team with Hotch. I do wish they'd tone her makeup down a bit, she wears as much as Garcia does, just not as colorful. She's doing a great job of hiding the baby bump, too.

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    2. i like better Blake or prentiss

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    3. i like better Blake or prentiss

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  18. Do like her, I think she is a good addition to CM.

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    1. not my favorite at all. I miss Strauss, Prentiss, or even Saver

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