At last! Great news! Now if only they would not replace Shemar but invest in some new and better writers instead. Season 11 only had a handful of really good episodes - hopefully we get a full season of exciting profiling ahead.
Agreed, let's not replace Shemar and make changes to the writers room. The last episode was great, have more like that one or like the Devil's backbone.
I second that. Reduced cast and changes in the writing room (at the very least not allowing recent additions to CM writing staff and guest writers to write an episode alone). Here is also a cost saving suggestion: less guests and more team, less action & special effects and more profiling.
I glad to see this, but I do hope they are making plans to wrap up the show if this is their final season. I rather it end with a planned conclusion than just ending in a whimper.
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I want to see permanent replacements for the two vacant roles. Both don't have to be profilers. I think the cast is too small. Boys club with the required woman.
*runs through comment thread spraying champagne and confetti*
At least I didn't do it nekkid.
With the new deal that CBS and ABC Studio has signed, it would be interesting to know if they talked about a smaller cast. I agree the with Writer's Room needs some changes. And as Jadeit said, no new/guest writers doing a script without a senior writer (Breen, Sharon and Bruce specifically) working with them.
That said, Crime Fan 12; the team needs a replacement for Morgan. And if CM:BB does not get picked up, I nominate Daniel Henney. He'd be perfect IMHO.
I agree they need to keep Tara and Henney would make a nice fix. I also wholeheartedly agree that you didn't do your celebrating naked. I would have had to poke my eyes out. :-D
If they will have to find Morgan's replacement and I hope that it won't be Henney (because I really hope that CM:BB gets picked up since its writers in so far made an effort to work on old CM's formula: a lot of team, a lot of profiling and a necessary amount of unsub). I digressed, back to replacement: between all additions to CM in the past all of them more or less slid in like a glove into the fabric of the team. I would love to see the opposite: replacement isn't Hotch's choice but one forced on him and the team, also a pompous pr*ck (at least to certain degree for no other reason than to be collectively put in his place). There you have it, a conflict, common goal and team bonding exercise.
Don't get me wrong, I love(d) the ladies and I'm glad that they fit in but I would really love to see the integration that doesn't come easy because in real life it doesn't.
Amen to that! A bit of conflict within the team that lasts longer than half an episode would inject some interest and realism. I am so over the twinkly Disney family vibe that Erica Messer thinks we want to see. I know the team is close but the closest of families fall out from time to time and we haven't seen any of that for a long time - was "Proof" the last time and how badly did they resolve that one! If they absolutely must bring in a replacement for Shemar then bring in someone to cause some tension and adjustment for longer than one episode. I loved Blake, liked Kate and am still on the fence about Tara but it would be good to see a new agent causing some disturbance within the team. I'd much rather see how that would affect the dynamic of the team and how they work together because of it than all the fluffy and badly done personal stuff.
They already did that with Prentiss. Hotch didn't hire her. Strauss put her on the team to be her mole and her sudden assignment had Hotch suspicious of her for a while. If you want some conflict it be an agent who looks great on paper and interviews well, but in the field proves to be as you say a pr*ck. They only got where they are is because previous bosses didn't know what to do with them, nothing they do is fireable so to get them out their hair, they promote them and make them someone else's problem. It happens in real life. Hotch would have to mold into a good agent because he's not the kind of guy to pass the problem on. Just a thought.
The thing with Emily is that it takes two to tango. Strauss put her on the team to be the mole but as one Emily didn't exactly do a good job. They also have ground for 'Richard Mole Dickinson' entrance: DOJ and all of Hotch 'judgement calls' from the past and team's tendency to go rouge. If now isn't a good time to force on Hotch someone who isn't easy to work with and maybe even after his job... (I would love to see that).
They might also solve Rossi's age issue - because he's not getting younger and I love Rossi and JM but for the love of God it's time for someone to say: retirement (in fact for all that we know Morgan who is about two decades younger had retired early - that's the only logical explanation I can find). I know that it's a dreaded word but let's be realistic we can get rid of Cruz (I can't remember if we saw him during season 11 or not) and replace him with Rossi. I'm not pushing but I want someone on the team to acknowledge that David Rossi isn't getting younger... Now that would be a perfect line for agent pr*ck.
Which is why I wouldn't mind if someone acknowledged the elephant in the room and in order to still keep JM on CM and be realistic about Rossi's age and physical abilities enough to put him behind the desk as section chief.
Rather than getting some angsty, soap-opera new-character conflict (!), I want there to be focus on the team, with Spencer getting to do more and also getting some happiness in the way of a partner, maybe his mom being moved closer to him and being featured once or twice. Hotch's growing conflict with Jack is interesting, but please don't take it in the direction of Kate's niece being in dane-jah. And please just forget about Rossi's love life, we've had that up to here this season, enough, already. Bring Lewis on full-time and don't bring anyone else onto the team. Get Cruz back as recurring (where the hell was he in the finale anyway?). Bring Derek back for a 2-parter in mid-season.
Ditch the weaker and less experienced writers, and get some continuity of character in there. Take it back to CM 101, not Alias, and not 24.
CM 101 had plenty of conflict which made it feel much more real - Morgan and Gideon had many such moments, Rossi was so much better as the cranky, edgy loner than as bumbling Grandpa Dave, Hotch's home problems spilled over into the workplace etc etc. I would like them to get back to that realism in the team dynamics instead of making them a cross between a Disney family and the Avengers.
Ditto, Suegypt and Mary. I’m still not sold on Lewis, but I can accept her. If we must have a new team member, I’d like to see him/her struggle to adapt, for well more than a single episode. As to conflict---YES!! It’s completely unrealistic that the team members would always agree on a profile or an approach to the case. It was so much richer a show when we saw their disagreements on screen, and they weren’t artificially resolved by the end of an episode. If someone goes rogue, let there be a consequence, and let it play out again next week, and the week after, and the week after that.
I join the ranks of those who would like to wave goodbye to Rossi’s manufactured family, as well as his famous friends. No more indulgent casting or story lines unless they can be made cohesive with the rest.
I’m fine with family focus, but don’t think it all needs to be shown on screen. Hotch can worry about his relationship with Jack without us seeing the younger character. He can remind JJ what the job has cost him, and might cost her, without us seeing any of their children. Although I do think the kids are cute!
I’d like to see the continued maturing of Reid, without the backsliding caused by lazy writing. I’d like to see him groomed for leadership, perhaps the logical second-in-command after Rossi finally steps away, headed toward leading his own unit one day.
I’m not averse to Reid's being happy, but I’m not set on it, either. To my mind, Reid and Hotch are the classic tragic figures in the ensemble. To one degree or another, I think they should probably remain so. That doesn’t mean ‘piling on’. It just means that there will always be a bittersweetness to their lives. No saccharine, please. (eg, the infamous pasta party, the wedding-that-shouldn’t-have-been, pretty much anything to do with Rossi’s family, or his backyard, save the toast at the end of The Replicator).
And please, writers, remember that less is more. No explosions, no helicopters, and no running-around-in-the-dark. We want to SEE our heroes. We want to see them inside and out, success and foible, triumph and angst. Above all, we want to see them on our screens. We don’t want to be wondering what they’re up to while we’re watching the person they’re trying to catch. Because that’s not why we watch the show. But it could, ultimately, become the reason we stop watching.
In regards less is more. How about sitting down and making a list of more unsub centric episodes and not getting more than five of them for the entire season (six will be pushing it and for the love of all that's holly do not put them back to back one after the other).
I loved this episode. The scene at the end with them all together at Rossi's was one of my favorite parts. I guess I'm in the minority, because I love when they have them all get together like they did.
I hope Morgan is not replaced; then each BAU team member can have more air time. If he is replaced, I don't want to see any conflict with other team members - I just don't want to see any personal disagreements within the team, with each other, just stick to differing opinions on the case and leave it at that. I like the "family" that they have - and if we get any bad episodes, I don't want a bad episode PLUS a new team member being hurtful/spiteful - that would be so sad IMO. As someone else said - save the $ for great writing/episodes. Agree to leave out all the personal stories - all I want to see are cases being solved! Let Reid be like Tesla and not have a girlfriend, Hotch too - let him have his privacy - that's how he likes it. Garcia and Sam doing great? Fine. JJ and kids doing great? Fine. Rossi, Hadyn whatever? Fine - just don't need to see it. PLEASE - if this is the last season, please let every episode focus on the team solving the case and that's it - profiling, ID the unsub, go get him/her. Use the format that made the show a success in the first place!!! Roundtable, jet, profile, ID unsub, solve, go home, everyone gets along, have a nice party at the end of the season. I want to be able to "count on" this being the format every week - I look forward to the show and it would be so nice to know that this is how it will go.
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Finally!!! Such great news! Bring on S12!!! :D
ReplyDeleteAt last! Great news! Now if only they would not replace Shemar but invest in some new and better writers instead. Season 11 only had a handful of really good episodes - hopefully we get a full season of exciting profiling ahead.
ReplyDeleteFrom your mouth (fingertips) to whoever-can-make-that-decision's ears (eyes)!
DeleteTotally agree
DeleteAgreed, let's not replace Shemar and make changes to the writers room. The last episode was great, have more like that one or like the Devil's backbone.
ReplyDeleteI second that. Reduced cast and changes in the writing room (at the very least not allowing recent additions to CM writing staff and guest writers to write an episode alone). Here is also a cost saving suggestion: less guests and more team, less action & special effects and more profiling.
ReplyDeleteI glad to see this, but I do hope they are making plans to wrap up the show if this is their final season. I rather it end with a planned conclusion than just ending in a whimper.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I want to see permanent replacements for the two vacant roles. Both don't have to be profilers. I think the cast is too small. Boys club with the required woman.
*runs through comment thread spraying champagne and confetti*
ReplyDeleteAt least I didn't do it nekkid.
With the new deal that CBS and ABC Studio has signed, it would be interesting to know if they talked about a smaller cast. I agree the with Writer's Room needs some changes. And as Jadeit said, no new/guest writers doing a script without a senior writer (Breen, Sharon and Bruce specifically) working with them.
That said, Crime Fan 12; the team needs a replacement for Morgan. And if CM:BB does not get picked up, I nominate Daniel Henney. He'd be perfect IMHO.
And keep Tara Lewis!
I meant to say I agreed with Crime Fan 12. :D
DeleteI agree they need to keep Tara and Henney would make a nice fix. I also wholeheartedly agree that you didn't do your celebrating naked. I would have had to poke my eyes out. :-D
DeleteLOL!!!
ReplyDeleteIf they will have to find Morgan's replacement and I hope that it won't be Henney (because I really hope that CM:BB gets picked up since its writers in so far made an effort to work on old CM's formula: a lot of team, a lot of profiling and a necessary amount of unsub). I digressed, back to replacement: between all additions to CM in the past all of them more or less slid in like a glove into the fabric of the team. I would love to see the opposite: replacement isn't Hotch's choice but one forced on him and the team, also a pompous pr*ck (at least to certain degree for no other reason than to be collectively put in his place). There you have it, a conflict, common goal and team bonding exercise.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I love(d) the ladies and I'm glad that they fit in but I would really love to see the integration that doesn't come easy because in real life it doesn't.
Amen to that! A bit of conflict within the team that lasts longer than half an episode would inject some interest and realism. I am so over the twinkly Disney family vibe that Erica Messer thinks we want to see. I know the team is close but the closest of families fall out from time to time and we haven't seen any of that for a long time - was "Proof" the last time and how badly did they resolve that one! If they absolutely must bring in a replacement for Shemar then bring in someone to cause some tension and adjustment for longer than one episode. I loved Blake, liked Kate and am still on the fence about Tara but it would be good to see a new agent causing some disturbance within the team. I'd much rather see how that would affect the dynamic of the team and how they work together because of it than all the fluffy and badly done personal stuff.
DeleteThey already did that with Prentiss. Hotch didn't hire her. Strauss put her on the team to be her mole and her sudden assignment had Hotch suspicious of her for a while. If you want some conflict it be an agent who looks great on paper and interviews well, but in the field proves to be as you say a pr*ck. They only got where they are is because previous bosses didn't know what to do with them, nothing they do is fireable so to get them out their hair, they promote them and make them someone else's problem. It happens in real life. Hotch would have to mold into a good agent because he's not the kind of guy to pass the problem on. Just a thought.
DeleteThe thing with Emily is that it takes two to tango. Strauss put her on the team to be the mole but as one Emily didn't exactly do a good job. They also have ground for 'Richard Mole Dickinson' entrance: DOJ and all of Hotch 'judgement calls' from the past and team's tendency to go rouge. If now isn't a good time to force on Hotch someone who isn't easy to work with and maybe even after his job... (I would love to see that).
DeleteThey might also solve Rossi's age issue - because he's not getting younger and I love Rossi and JM but for the love of God it's time for someone to say: retirement (in fact for all that we know Morgan who is about two decades younger had retired early - that's the only logical explanation I can find). I know that it's a dreaded word but let's be realistic we can get rid of Cruz (I can't remember if we saw him during season 11 or not) and replace him with Rossi. I'm not pushing but I want someone on the team to acknowledge that David Rossi isn't getting younger... Now that would be a perfect line for agent pr*ck.
I Rossi is past the mandatory retirement age...lol. If this was the real world, he would have been gone a couple years ago.
DeleteWhich is why I wouldn't mind if someone acknowledged the elephant in the room and in order to still keep JM on CM and be realistic about Rossi's age and physical abilities enough to put him behind the desk as section chief.
DeleteRather than getting some angsty, soap-opera new-character conflict (!), I want there to be focus on the team, with Spencer getting to do more and also getting some happiness in the way of a partner, maybe his mom being moved closer to him and being featured once or twice. Hotch's growing conflict with Jack is interesting, but please don't take it in the direction of Kate's niece being in dane-jah. And please just forget about Rossi's love life, we've had that up to here this season, enough, already. Bring Lewis on full-time and don't bring anyone else onto the team. Get Cruz back as recurring (where the hell was he in the finale anyway?). Bring Derek back for a 2-parter in mid-season.
ReplyDeleteDitch the weaker and less experienced writers, and get some continuity of character in there. Take it back to CM 101, not Alias, and not 24.
CM 101 had plenty of conflict which made it feel much more real - Morgan and Gideon had many such moments, Rossi was so much better as the cranky, edgy loner than as bumbling Grandpa Dave, Hotch's home problems spilled over into the workplace etc etc. I would like them to get back to that realism in the team dynamics instead of making them a cross between a Disney family and the Avengers.
DeleteDitto, Suegypt and Mary. I’m still not sold on Lewis, but I can accept her. If we must have a new team member, I’d like to see him/her struggle to adapt, for well more than a single episode. As to conflict---YES!! It’s completely unrealistic that the team members would always agree on a profile or an approach to the case. It was so much richer a show when we saw their disagreements on screen, and they weren’t artificially resolved by the end of an episode. If someone goes rogue, let there be a consequence, and let it play out again next week, and the week after, and the week after that.
ReplyDeleteI join the ranks of those who would like to wave goodbye to Rossi’s manufactured family, as well as his famous friends. No more indulgent casting or story lines unless they can be made cohesive with the rest.
I’m fine with family focus, but don’t think it all needs to be shown on screen. Hotch can worry about his relationship with Jack without us seeing the younger character. He can remind JJ what the job has cost him, and might cost her, without us seeing any of their children. Although I do think the kids are cute!
I’d like to see the continued maturing of Reid, without the backsliding caused by lazy writing. I’d like to see him groomed for leadership, perhaps the logical second-in-command after Rossi finally steps away, headed toward leading his own unit one day.
I’m not averse to Reid's being happy, but I’m not set on it, either. To my mind, Reid and Hotch are the classic tragic figures in the ensemble. To one degree or another, I think they should probably remain so. That doesn’t mean ‘piling on’. It just means that there will always be a bittersweetness to their lives. No saccharine, please. (eg, the infamous pasta party, the wedding-that-shouldn’t-have-been, pretty much anything to do with Rossi’s family, or his backyard, save the toast at the end of The Replicator).
And please, writers, remember that less is more. No explosions, no helicopters, and no running-around-in-the-dark. We want to SEE our heroes. We want to see them inside and out, success and foible, triumph and angst. Above all, we want to see them on our screens. We don’t want to be wondering what they’re up to while we’re watching the person they’re trying to catch. Because that’s not why we watch the show. But it could, ultimately, become the reason we stop watching.
In regards less is more. How about sitting down and making a list of more unsub centric episodes and not getting more than five of them for the entire season (six will be pushing it and for the love of all that's holly do not put them back to back one after the other).
DeleteI loved this episode. The scene at the end with them all together at Rossi's was one of my favorite parts. I guess I'm in the minority, because I love when they have them all get together like they did.
ReplyDeleteI hope Morgan is not replaced; then each BAU team member can have more air time. If he is replaced, I don't want to see any conflict with other team members - I just don't want to see any personal disagreements within the team, with each other, just stick to differing opinions on the case and leave it at that. I like the "family" that they have - and if we get any bad episodes, I don't want a bad episode PLUS a new team member being hurtful/spiteful - that would be so sad IMO. As someone else said - save the $ for great writing/episodes. Agree to leave out all the personal stories - all I want to see are cases being solved! Let Reid be like Tesla and not have a girlfriend, Hotch too - let him have his privacy - that's how he likes it. Garcia and Sam doing great? Fine. JJ and kids doing great? Fine. Rossi, Hadyn whatever? Fine - just don't need to see it. PLEASE - if this is the last season, please let every episode focus on the team solving the case and that's it - profiling, ID the unsub, go get him/her. Use the format that made the show a success in the first place!!! Roundtable, jet, profile, ID unsub, solve, go home, everyone gets along, have a nice party at the end of the season. I want to be able to "count on" this being the format every week - I look forward to the show and it would be so nice to know that this is how it will go.
ReplyDelete