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Criminal Minds has not one, but two ongoing mysteries this season — and showrunner Erica Messer didn't even realize it. "I didn't really think about that until now!" she tells TVGuide.com. "But I guess it's true. We've got a good mystery with Reid's girlfriend and a scary mystery with the season-long unsub. We didn't really plan for it this way, but they both just sort of worked out for this season."
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Okay so I know this is going to be a rant but I'm annoyed and no-one here cares about CM!
ReplyDeleteI know everyone has their favourites, but mine happens to be JJ and Hotch. I understand that Reidis a central character, but he's been held hostage how many times, shot, tortured, poisoned by deadly amthrax, held at gunpoint, he's been a drug addict, had random headaches and is lactose intolerant, might be schizophrenic one day and might have aspergers, got a schizophrenic mother, thought his father was a child killer, got abandonment issues, been bullied, gone 'undercover' , had numerous love interests, had issues with said girls, had issues with team members, been personally invested in cases and has three degrees, ran seminars and been central in conferences and probably so much more that I've forgot about.
Don't get me wrong, I know every character has flaws and pitfalls, but in this case I'm pissed about JJ's story lines. It's probably because she has so much potential but the writers keep on focusing on the fact that she's a mother. Not that family is not an important part of who JJ is, but couldn't they focus on her sister or her dad (whos never been mentioned), It's like every storyline that JJ gets it ends up being about someone else, even JJ giving birth ended up being about Reid, the only time I can remember that it was about JJ was North Mammon back in season 2. I know everyone wants their own favourite character to get a good arc, but JJ continually gets shafted, maybes if the writers wrote better material for AJ then she would be more peoples favourite character. I still love JJ and CM, but I think it's more my own expectations which keep pissing me off, they could jar done so many things worth JJ. They could have explained her new badass character more and link it in with whatever she was doing in the DOD, they could have given JJ a speciality skill to do wit her communication coordinator role, they could have drawn out the idea of JJ and Will getting married into this season so it wasn't as rushed and given Prentiss a going away party instead, they could have shown JJ struggling with becoming a profiler, having meaningful conversations with Hotch about her new role or how they dealt with the guilt over Prentiss fake death, they could show her new skills that she picked up from the DOD maybes showing how good she is at politics or team leadership, I don't know they could have done so much but instead they keep on drawing back to troubles at home or issues about being a mom and working full time and at the end of the case it being about someone else, like Henry has a sore throat and the only one who can cheer him up is his aunt Penelope but JJ struggles with how she has to work during the time Henrys cold... I know this is a huge rant and I really do still love JJ and CM but I just wish for once JJ got a key role that isn't home or family orientated, I know they'll be people who disagree with me but I'm annoyed after reading the article.
Sorry for the rant :) cb21
Agreed! Even me, not a big JJ's fan, I am annoyed that a story about her is again about her family, her being a mom. Will see how it all play out but so far I'm not impressed.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of this interview with Erica: I am VERY disappointed that there is nothing for Hotch in our future. Since season 1, when the writers alluded to Hotch's past (for those with short memory or incomplete knowledge of CM, see episodes 'Natural Born Killer' and 'Blood Hungry') we have asked often for a backstory episode; never got it for Hotch, but got it for nearly all the others. Sure Hotch got a family story going on - thanks writers I LOVE the Hotch and Beth storyline! - but still we, long time faithful fans, have waited forever!
While I am on a rant about Hotch... when will he have something meaningful to do as an Agent, as a Natural Profiler, as Unit Chief, and/or as a star Interrogator? I miss the Hotch of past seasons when he was doing more than just shake hands with the local police and disappear to only reappear later, usually for the take down. What is happening this season with Hotch reminds me of last year, what happened with Prentiss.
Speaking of backstory, why going back to "Profiler, Profiled"? That storyline had closure (unlike the Hotch's one). I guess will have to watch and see but so far not excited about it one bit.
Not everything is negative: I love the idea of a season long unsub and I'm happy how the story is developing so far. Cannot wait to see episode 16 and find out who the unsub is and why he is after the BAU.
Also like the Reid girlfriend storyline: it got mystery and it is different. I am very curious about how she is involved with the season long unsub!
The thing is, I tend to always like the writers ideas but then am slightly disappointed for the what could have been. I would love to see more on Hotch's background and family life (not Beth, even though she's alright I guess, but a part of me hopes she's not around for the long haul).
ReplyDeleteI think one season long mystery is enough, I'd like something normal happen to Reid rather than mystery girlfriend, sure it adds suspense and angst for Reid fans but I'd have been just as happy if she was a doctor or nurse or someone he met face to face on one of his consults, but that's just me.
I'm glad that Erica believes that this going to be a new season, I don't like when there's speculation that the show might end. But I do hope we get more JJ and Hotch focus, even Garcia if they manage to write something for her that doesn't make me feel uncomfortable. I'm all for comic relief but the Morgan/Garcia flirting makes me cringe sometimes. I'd like to hear about Garcia's many brothers and have her and Kevin sorted out. I'd like to see more interaction between JJ/Hotch and JJ/Garcia that shows their bonds and I'd like seeing Hotch/Rossi's friendship as well as Hotch's brother.
But even though I complain about certain elements, I really do love the show and I like how they've brought in Blake (although I'll be annoyed if by the end of the season that we know more about Blake than we know about JJ, Hotch and Garcia's pasts over the last eight years)
I can't wait to see how the SLU is going to play out and whether or not Reid is going to get a happy ending with mg but I also wish we got to see more of the others too...
I am very excited that they go back to the Profiler Profiled storyline. We never got to see how Morgan dealt with the sexual abuse. We just saw that he did not deal with it. Plus, I think (I hope that I`m right) the episode is co-written by Jim Clemente of whose personal background story of sexual abuse Morgan`s background was created. Should be a great episode.
ReplyDeleteBri, AMEN!!!
ReplyDelete"While I am on a rant about Hotch... when will he have something meaningful to do as an Agent, as a Natural Profiler, as Unit Chief, and/or as a star Interrogator?" ← THIS, THIS, THIS sooooooooooooo much THIS!!!
Thomas, in sync with the writers from seasons past, has created the most layered character of all, and Thomas is a very strong actor so, why on earth is he so misused, underused, and forgotten in nearly all the episodes lately???
I don't begrudge the rest of the characters their shining time, they're all strong ones in their own right and deserve it, but all of them forming a tight knit team means that naturally all of them gravitate around a central figure, and naturally too that central figure is their Unit Chief... the Unit Chief, with a bunch of very defined skills to boot, the writers seem to have forgotten exists!
And about JJ, she's my favorite female character, and I'm too sick of watching all her professional life revolve around her being a mom, when she's much more than that to begin with. I'm too very unhappy watching how they've decided that the only way for her to show being a badass is transforming her into a blonde ninja, when the truth is that she possessed one of the sharpest tongues of the team, and did know very, very well how to use it!
Nothing to object about the long season unsub, I'm too looking forward to learn who he/she's and how he/she relates to our profilers. And Reid's girlfriend tying with that storyline sounds like genius too... I don't think Reid, being as he's, could be happy with someone too "normal" ;)
I am not a fan of badass JJ the profiler.I thought she was more unique as the media liaison.I agree it would've been nice if we could've seen her struggling somewhat and trying to learn the ropes as a profiler,instead they made her as good or in some cases better than the seasoned profilers.
ReplyDeleteI sympathize with you about JJ and the mother thing.Although AJ's little boy as Henry is adorable,seeing JJ as a mom is not why I watch the show.
Unfortunately MESSer said she liked the idea of showing JJ as a mom bc MESSer herself is a mom like AJ.So she can identify with being a mom.
Reid is my absolute favorite character and except for an occasional episode or 2,he was pretty much shoved into the background for the last 2 or 3 seasons.I think he more than deserves the bit of attention he is getting this season.I personally am looking forward to some Reid angst bc we haven't had any since season 4(I'm purposely ignoring the headache storyline,after all the writers didn't seem to give a damn about it,so why should I.)
I love all the characters on this show but JJ is my favorite. I feel she has been in the back round a lot in season eight. I am very disappointed that her undercover storyline was dumped for this season. I love the JJ/Hotch stuff. I especially love in the finale when she looks at Hotch and says"Aaron" Her eyes said it all, they have a connection and I wish the writers would go into that a bit. And I agree Hotch has become back round too! I do like the season long unsub idea, that will be fun to follow. Also happy about Reid and his mystery girl. I just hope we see more good stuff for JJ, her episodes are aways really good! AJ is so much better then the material her character gets, when given good material she is a really good actressl
ReplyDeleteI am not the least bit sorry that they dropped that ridiculous storyline of JJ going undercover.JJ isn't just some unknown FBI agent.For many years she was the face of the BAU and appeared on television numerous times.
ReplyDeleteHonestly these writers really need to come up with something that makes more sense for JJ's character.
I'm pretty excited about Reid's gf storyline. There's so much mystery to it and after a few seasons of being shoved in the background, it's nice to give him some focus.
ReplyDeleteI like JJ but the new one is too badass for me. I like the old compassionate JJ and enjoyed her interaction with the team. Now she just seems to be some tough fighting machine. I'm glad that they got rid of the undercover story for her. I agree with one of the posters who said that they wanted to see her struggling with the transition into becoming a profiler. I get that she's spent a lot of time with the team but the transition was too smooth. Sometimes she seems like she's better than the seasoned profilers. It would give her some relevant focus that made sense if they showed us some of her struggles.
We need more Hotch too. Miss the Reid/Hotch interaction.
I use to be fond of JJ,but they have turned her into such a Mary Sue,who is perfect at just about everything.Now I find her to be extremely irritating most of the time.
ReplyDeleteI think they could have done a good undercover storyline, if they managed to give a good reason as to why JJ was the agent chosen and not just, she fits the victims description, she's the right age blah blah, but if there was a genuine reason, like she was the one with the connection or she had a particular skill set and they addressed that she was once the face of the bau then I'll be looking forwards to that storyline next season.
ReplyDeleteI also hope that when they do the episode, they show the residule effects in the cases after, that always bugs me when they do episodes with the agents in danger and it's only talked about once again, a few episodes later when there's been no signs since...
AJ deserves some good material for JJ rather than her new badass JJ (which I like as well, but it'd be nice to give us a reason of why she's like that now, yes she's a profiler but that doesn't necessarily mean her personality would have a complete 180) I still see the traits JJ had in season one, she still talks to victims and family, she was always acted like a snarky big sister towards Reid, she's been a caring mother with those issues since season 4, but I think it should have been explained why she is the 'new badass JJ' like if something had happened while she was away, even if it's just the politics of the old job had changed feelings towards her job role.
I just hope the episode is a good one for JJ she's my favourite character and deserves more than, worrying over the fact her kid doesn't want to go trick or treating or a small b plot so that the episode actually centres arounds Reid's worrying :/
If JJ is a Mary Sue then I guess all of the other characters are as well. They all are super great agents who are good at just about anything.
ReplyDeleteJJ being a good agent is not a new trait, we have known that since the very first season. The character is still the same. She was already badass when she shot Garcia's shooter in the head through the damn glass door and had the ability to make any case a BAU case if she wanted to. JJ the profiler is as straight forward and no nonsense agent as JJ the liaison was. And her gentle and compassionate side still shines through whenever she interacts with the victims or their families or the team.
I agree with the first anonymous rant. I am really disappointed that they abandoned JJ's undercover story because I have really missed having an episode that had JJ drive the story as an agent. And that applies to Hotch as well, I love his personal story with Beth but Hotch the agent is an afterthought.
And I have really missed some serious and meaningful interaction between Hotch and JJ. Up until season 6 they shared this deep connection, there was understanding and respect and now they hardly share the same screen.
Laura
I know JJ is a good agent.She was also a good media liaison and I wish she still was the media liason,but that isn't why I called her a Mary Sue.
ReplyDeleteIt's bc right out of the bat they have her profiling as well,maybe even better than the more seasoned profilers.
Yes JJ was a badass when she took down that unsub with one shot right thru the glass and I didn't have a problem with it.I thought it was awesome.
But I do have a problem with ninja JJ who's able to take down an unsub twice her size and come away with very little injury,even though Morgan the one who trained her, has gotten his a$$ whooped a few times.
Btw I didn't expect JJ to be a complete novice when it came to the profiling.I understand that her former job required a bit of profiling.
And of course we all know from Prentiss's comment how JJ(Mary Sue)absolutely excelled in her class above every one else.
Perhaps if the writers had put forth just a small effort to actually write a story-arc for JJ, we wouldn't be having this discussion. In eight years there has not been one JJ centric episode. JJ has had her moments and some minor B plots that were very good, but never an episode the was focused on her character. While every other character have has had multiple episode dedicated to their character. Especially Reid, who has experience every emotional trama, several times over. Heck, even A Seaver had a story arc and that character was in less than 10 episodes. The closest JJ episode was 'JJ' in season 6, her "swan song" episode (too little, too late?)
ReplyDeleteWhen they finally did write a JJ centric episode, they pulled it at the last minute for vague and unspecified reasons with no guarantee that the episode will ever see the light of day. As if to say "just kidding".
I would like to know when the writers and producers will do right by AJ and give her a story line that extends beyond the fact that JJ is a mother and wife. Something that would actually showcase her acting skills.
I also agree that Hotch has also been grossly overlooked, the last few years.
I too blame the writers bc in spite of my criticism of JJ.I am still fond of AJ Cook herself.
ReplyDeleteI hated that they made JJ a profiler.I thought she was unique in her role as the media liaison.Now she is just another profiler among 6 of them.
That is way too many profilers,especially since the show,unfortunately does way less profiling then it use to.
The excuse for them making her a profiler was supposedly fans didn't see the relevance of her character.If this is true I'm real baffled by it.
Bc I myself clearly saw the relevance of JJ as the media liaison.
However if fans didn't see the importance of JJ's character as the media liaison,the fault lies at the feet of the writers.
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I am very glad that they are nixxing the JJ undercover story because it does not make sense (as others have mentioned) since she was the face of the BAU. They would not send someone who had a chance of being recognized. I mean, perhaps if she dyed her hair and wore different clothes and makeup it might be slightly different, but still, her voice might be recognizable. She's probably been on Youtube more than a few times. She is just the wrong one to pick-- not because of skillset-- but because there is a chance she could be recognized.
ReplyDeleteCount me with the group who do not like the "new" JJ. I liked JJ the way she was before and wish we had not lost her. I thought the media liaison position made her unique in the team and gave her insights that other team members might not have and the ability to use her talents to manipulate the press and, by extension, the unsubs.
Her niche is less defined now and she's just another profiler so they have to make her stand out. I want to see her have a case that involves the media and her knowledge of it and what sorts of things work and such. I really hate the new "bada$$" thing of JJ doing roundhouse kicks. I'm all for learning martial arts, but I find it much more compelling when characters use their brains rather than brawn. I would love to see JJ use her words to persuade an unsub to surrender than to see her kick him in the face. One of the things I liked about the show was the importance of a good profile and that they said you didn't need a gun to kill someone. You could out-think them.
Remember an episode where JJ wanted some files from a cop and at first he balked and she took him aside and said something about how these guys weren't going to let her do anything so she just wanted the files to give herself something to do. She got sympathy from the cop without making it seem like she was accusing the cops of not doing their jobs. She's good at manipulation. I also liked how sassy she was without coming off as mean. Now she comes off as much colder.
I agree that I felt that there was enough closure with "Profiler, Profiled" that we don't need a rehash. Plus I really don't expect these writers to be able to pull it off in a way that will do justice to the original.
For those wondering about JJ's father, Erica said her father was dead (hence he wasn't at the wedding). She never said how or when he died though.
Hotch really is getting shafted this season and I don't know why. I actually think it would be more interesting for them to address whether or not he really was abused as a child and who did the abuse than to rehash Morgan's old story. Really, they can't come up with something new for Morgan? How about something about his bomb squad work? Or his undercover work in Chicago before he joined the FBI?
Back to JJ, it would be interesting to see how she became the media liaison for the BAU specifically. Did they ever even say what degree she had?
Is anyone else sort of sad that the showrunner didn't even realize there were two "mysteries" going at the same time on her own show?
I don't think that any one character should be pushed to the background to give other characters stories. But I do think if they cut back on the unsub time they could have more time for the team and we could actually go on the journey with them as they profile and get closer to catching the unsubs. Reid is my favorite character, but I do want each character to get a fair shake. Right now Hotch is getting the treatment Reid had for the past few seasons.
Please, Reid has never been shafted as Hotch is being shafted. Even last season when Reid fans were whining about how he never had any screen time he was getting more screen time and much better dialogue and centrics than Hotch was. People thought because Hotch got to have 12 minutes of screen time with his girlfriend over 4 episodes he was somehow getting loads of quality screen time when the reality is that the man hasn't had anything of "quality" given to him since Season 5. Hey but kudos to you Reid fan girls, your constant whining and complaining, however unwarranted, has paid off. We now officially have The Reid Show, or at least that first half of the season is playing out that way. I used to adore the character, but now I'm wishing he'd just fade off into the background for awhile and give one of the other characters a chance to do something.
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ReplyDelete"Hotch really is getting shafted this season and I don't know why."
I don't why either. Except for the Beth storyline we had nothing for Hotch since episode 9 of season 5. Since then, everything involving Hotch was always to support someone else storyline. Morgan and his vendetta against the old guy who did beat him and killed Spicer in front of him. Prentiss and her problem dealing with her return to the job. Why can't Hotch have a storyline now? Worse now, he is the office guy now, the one that stay at the police station or do the take down at the end. Nothing else. I'm a Hotch fan and these days I prefer to watch old CM then new CM because in new episodes I know there will be nothing for Hotch to do or interesting. I hope things will change in the second part of this season.
"I actually think it would be more interesting for them to address whether or not he really was abused as a child and who did the abuse than to rehash Morgan's old story. "
Erica was asked that question about Hotch past in a chat here on this site and if it would ever been addressed in an episode and her disappointing answer was something like this ' he is a private man and would not talk about something so private' (I'm paraphrasing anyone can look on this site for the chat with Erica for the exact quote). I am surprised and disappointed that the writers prefer to redo 'Profiler, Profiled' or do a follow up to actually do something new and answer some of the fans requests to have the questions about Hotch past answered.
"Really, they can't come up with something new for Morgan? How about something about his bomb squad work? Or his undercover work in Chicago before he joined the FBI?"
Yes that would be interesting and we know very little about it. Why not find something new about him? why go back to something that was settled in season 2?
"I don't think that any one character should be pushed to the background to give other characters stories. But I do think if they cut back on the unsub time they could have more time for the team and we could actually go on the journey with them as they profile and get closer to catching the unsubs. "
Totally agree 100% with you. I am not about asking to cut back on any characters, but we could do with less about the unsubs and more about those who catch them.
You Reid haters are something else.Not a damn word out of your mouths about how much focus Morgan got the last 3 seasons.Tell me did you bitch and complain about it being the Morgan show in seasons 6&7.
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ReplyDeletemaybe people have not mention it to avoid the 'you morgan haters have not said a words about how season...'?
And no I do not hate reid, read my comments on this site, I have been vocal about being happy he is getting some screentime after not having much in season 6 and 7. But as I said in my previous post, it isn't about taking screentime from one character but taking some from the unsubs.
Bri
ReplyDeleteI wasn't referring to your post.I was referring to the post above yours
I thought my response was going to end up under it.
But your post got in between I guess that happens sometimes.As a matter of fact I did read your post and I agree with it.
LOL I was afraid this might happen,but there was nothing I could do about it.But I was hoping bc I made reference to the Reid show like that other poster did you'd realize I was responding to them.
I hope my exclamation clears things up.
Bri
ReplyDeleteI meant to say I made reference to the Morgan show only bc they had made reference to the Reid show.
I hope now that you realize the comment I was referring to you might understand a little better why I responded like I did.
I actually could have sympathize for this Hotch fan,if they weren't such an a$$ regarding Reid and his fans.
Woohoo can't wait to learn more about Reid's girlfriend. So excited about this.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a Reid hater, I love Reid, it's his fans I can do without. They have taken over TWOP and after day after day of how MGG is the only actor not mailing it in every week, and how Reid is the only character that's interesting and how they should just center the show around him and get rid of everyone else and then you get all of that followed-up by the patronizing, well Hotch is getting shafted just like Reid was, when I could sit back and name episode after episode where Reid has been prominent, I just finally needed to speak up. I don't have a favorite character and I don't want to see any of them shoved into the background they way Hotch has been this season. You'd think the writers could come up with a way to even that out a bit. All the man has been allowed to contribute all season is telling them when the plane would be leaving and introducing himself to the local police. It's pathetic. You used to be able to tell who the leader of this team was and now he's little more than window dressing.
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ReplyDeleteYou Reid haters are something else.Not a damn word out of your mouths about how much focus Morgan got the last 3 seasons.Tell me did you bitch and complain about it being the Morgan show in seasons 6&7."
There was bitching and complaining about Morgan all the time from Hotch AND Reid fans. And the bitching and complaining already started again just because it was mentioned in an interview that the character gets ONE episode focused on him this season.
To the posters who want to see a story about Morgan`s time undercover. I want that too since season one. But the writers gave the undercover background storyline to Prentiss and the Doyle arc and ignored Morgan`s undercover background throughout that arc instead of using it.
So What.Are you not able to post on the TWOP to give a different opinion.
ReplyDeleteHas the moderator banned everybody but Reid fans.
I've notice that this thread is full of post from JJ fans unhappy with the fact that she hasn't really gotten a decent story line.
Now I am not exactly a JJ fan,but her fans have every right to express their opinions about how unfairly they feel she has been treated.
Reid fans also have the right to express their opinion about him.
And we believe he was getting the shaft the last 2 or 3 seasons.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete" Bri
I meant to say I made reference to the Morgan show only bc they had made reference to the Reid show.
I hope now that you realize the comment I was referring to you might understand a little better why I responded like I did."
It did and thanks for clarifying :)
Anonymous said :
ReplyDelete"I don't have a favorite character and I don't want to see any of them shoved into the background they way Hotch has been this season. You'd think the writers could come up with a way to even that out a bit. All the man has been allowed to contribute all season is telling them when the plane would be leaving and introducing himself to the local police. It's pathetic. You used to be able to tell who the leader of this team was and now he's little more than window dressing."
Totally agree with you here. When was the last time that Hotch did some interesting interview of suspects? Or really acted as the Unit Chief? This season his function seems to just meet the local police, shake hands and disappear until it is time to do the take down. What gets me is that of all the storylines we hear about, all the poilers there are zero mention of Hotch and if Thomas Gibson wasn't directing an episode his name would probably not been mention. I'm sick of that and this been happening since after episode 9 of season 5.
"I'm not a Reid hater, I love Reid, it's his fans I can do without. They have taken over TWOP and after day after day of how MGG is the only actor not mailing it in every week, and how Reid is the only character that's interesting and how they should just center the show around him and get rid of everyone else and then you get all of that followed-up by the patronizing,"
ReplyDeleteI read that, someone there is even suggesting to make CM a buddy show with Reid and Morgan. Morgan as the muscles, Reid the brains. How insulting to reduce those characters to that. The reason why any of those agents are with the BAU is because they all have brains, not just Reid! Sure he is the smarter one but the others are not lightweight either, if they were they would not be in the BAU.
Many times I wanted to respond to some of the most hateful comments on TWOP especially towards JJ, there are buckets of vitriol thrown at JJ over there (and lately that includes Hotch and Morgan as well), but it's overwhelming to even try to compose an answer that responds to so much hate...
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ReplyDelete"Many times I wanted to respond to some of the most hateful comments on TWOP"
Well why don't you respond and express how you feel.It's not like they can ban you for just having a difference of opinion.Or maybe you should just stay away from that thread if it bothers you that much.Not telling you what to do.It's just a suggestion.
As I said before as far as I know the board has not banned everyone except Reid fans.
Btw I belong to a forum that has a member who works in the televison business.She tells us the extra screen time Reid is getting has little to do with the demands of his fans.She said it was more likely bc the show has some ideas for his character right now.
One more thing one of the posters on the TWOP happens to love Morgan
In fact Morgan is his favorite character,but he has no issue with criticizing Morgan or having someone else criticize Morgan.
If he feels Morgan has been unfairly criticize.He will make his case as to why he feels that particular criticism is unwarranted.
I fail to see why you can't do the same thing.
I don't get why discussion of the shortcomings of the writings has to devolve into insults. Anytime someone starts attacking the people behind the ideas, rather than discussing things calmly, it shows that they can't be rational or logical about it.
ReplyDeleteI don't get the hostility in reply to my post unless the person replying did not actually fully read what I said or was just unable to comprehend it for some reason.
I never said that Hotch was getting great stories last season. I actually complained on TWOP about the quality of stories they were giving him. They had no ideas so they came up with the stupid girlfriend angle. I felt he was cheated on that. Screentime and story/focus are too different things. In the past couple of seasons, Hotch has at least been present and out in the field but this season he is disappearing just like Reid did in previous seasons.
Blaming other fans for what the writers decide to do is silly. We can give our feedback, but ultimately it is up to the showrunners (and CBS) to decide what to do with the characters. We (the fans) can't make them do anything that they don't want to do. I've heard from people in the industry that sometimes if someone from the network dislikes a particular actor or character they will tell the writers not to use that person as much.
The new JJ character gets a lot of flack because of the way she is currently being written. They took away some of what was unique about her character and her special niche.
As for the talk of Reid getting his own show, as much as I like Reid (he is the character that got me hooked on the show in the first place), I can't see a show with just him working. I also couldn't see a show about just him and Morgan working either. The thing that worked for me was the whole team working together.
I am not asking people to agree on everything, but would people at least try to be respectful to others even if they disagree? It saddens me to see such hatred aimed at fellow fans that just happen to enjoy different aspects of the show.
I may not like what the writers did with Morgan and Hotch last season, but I'm not going to hate on the fans who liked it.
oops. meant to say "two" different things. Stupid typos.
ReplyDeleteAnd for further clarification, I meant insults toward other fans.
I'm half asleep so I hope I'm making sense.
Terrific clues. I am really enjoying this season. I can't wait to see how Reid and his Mystery woman play out or what connection it has to the season long Unsub. Also excited for the Morgan show dealing with the aftermath of Carl Buford.
ReplyDeleteAnd Hotch fans I feel your pain. As a Reid fan I felt it for the past two years, especially last season where Reid vanished with twenty minutes left in the episode each and every week or was left behind at the police station when the other agents where in the field. CM is an ensemble show. Sometimes one character will get an arc and another won't. Hotch is no more important than Reid or Morgan or Rossi in terms of character. And to be honest the Hotch of season 8 is dull. Beth was a big mistake. A happy, contented character is often a boring character.
Oops. I meant to say "two different things" not "too different things".
ReplyDeletePlease share your thoughts and views about CM and its characters but do NOT called others haters because they do not agree with your views. Anyone attacking/making personal remarks, will see their post removed.
ReplyDeleteRespect the characters and ALL who works on CM, no names calling (Erica name's is Messer, not MESSer,nothing else will be accepted). You do not like what the writers write or Erica Messer's way of doing things on CM, or a character, fine say why, in a polite, respectful manner.
Again if from now on we read posts that do not follow those rules, posts will be deleted. If need be posting will go back to needing an account to post.
We started CMRT as a friendly place to talk and share news about CM, we want and will keep it that way.
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